Comments on: Rick Koerber Indicted? Schmucks, Grand Juries, & the Trials Ahead.

By: DJ

DJ — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:44:46 +0000

Neal
Since it’s legal, it’s ok. We shouldn’t be concerned with anything the government does or says – even if it’s corrupt, just as long as it’s within the existing laws.

I have two words: Moronic and Nazi.

If we don’t learn from history, we will be like all those that never learned from history – despondent, shackled, and broken.

By: Neal

Neal — Fri, 29 May 2009 04:00:25 +0000

Hi Mister Mike,
Thanks for the reply. I agree whole heartedly that the government needs to be held accountable. But being thrown into jail for standing up for what you believe where your voice can’t be heard isn’t always a good way to hold the Government accountable. I think we agree on principle, but we may differ on strategy. I believe the best way to hold the government accountable is become part of the government and fight for changing laws the way the founders allowed for laws to be changed. Nowadays that seems impossible with a lot of the corruptness that is the inside, but it seems more plausible than trying to change the country sitting in cell block#6. I think there are many out there that have the courage to fight, but the best possible strategy to do that is what is hard to agree on. I want to see Rick come out of this, because its a nasty time when the government thinks it can indict whoever it pleases because that person might be greater than they. I wish I knew all the facts, and not just the media’s spin on things.

By: Mister Mike

Mister Mike — Wed, 27 May 2009 21:51:25 +0000

Neal,
I’m not Rick’s cheering section and don’t agree with some of his ideas but if WE don’t hold the government accountable then who will?
I don’t care if what I say falls under Rick’s “brain off’, “victim”, or whatever; the government is out of control. They need to be reminded who they work for and that their purpose is to serve the needs of the people.

How many of us truly have the courage to fight?

Mister Mike

By: Neal

Neal — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:46:55 +0000

Hey there Rick,
Don’t blame the corrupt government officials for your indictment. That sounds like brain-off activity. Im sure the government officials are trying to do an honest job, but since we are heading to full blown socialism (sad to say), accept responsibility that you created businesses that were legal, but so close to the line, that it made it easier for the government to bring an indictment against you. The laws and what the government is allowed to do to businessmen these days is truly sick, and have been put in place by corrupt men, but to blame them for maybe going to jail for sticking up for the truth sounds brain-off to me. I know you have taken personal responsibility for losing some peoples money which I admire totally. I also think that you will learn much from these times and come back stronger, but creating businesses that although, aren’t ponzi schemes by law, you’ve created them so its easier for the govt. to treat them as such. Although the government is corrupt, and many of the laws nowadays are corrupt, its our responsibility to live within the laws that are current, or spend our time trying to change those laws back to the way the founders planned for the laws to be. I hope to invest in some of your businesses in the future because I believe you will come out of this smarter and more wise than most. But only when you accept that whatever happens isn’t the governments fault no matter how corrupt they may be.

By: William Mund

William Mund — Tue, 12 May 2009 04:04:10 +0000

Rick,

Just wanted to say thanks for being a pillar of strength. It’s great to see someone who is willing to stand tall in a world that is every shrinking in ingnorance, mysticism and greed. I admire you and the principles for which you stand and hope and pray for you and your cause. I hope to be able to help sometime with the project in the future. Stay strong…you’re a great American.

By: Robert Arbuckle

Robert Arbuckle — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:15:07 +0000

We have a son who sits in a Federal Prison I believe for many of the same reasons you listed in the article about grand juries and federal prosecutors. Not only were we threatened about getting him a descent attorney but when he was coereced into taking a plea deal the prosecutor never lived up to his promises. In the Eastern District of Texas prosecutors are out of control and the court appointed attorneys are working with them. We could tell you stories about the judges too. Is there anyone that could help us?

By: Tim Usher

Tim Usher — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:53:58 +0000

The subject of and cause for your article reminds me of a passage from ‘Atlas Shrugged,’ page 436:
“…There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted–and you create a nation of law-breakers–and then you cash in on guilt…”
We all ought to be wary of over-reaching legislation and regulations, some recently rushed through under the guise of urgency, and the motives of those who are empowered to implement and prosecute according to such.
Keep your guard up Rick.

By: Kevin Whittington

Kevin Whittington — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:58:28 +0000

Towards the tail end of the 90’s I loaned $80,000.00 to John D. VanHove, (AKA Johnny Liberty). The money was supposed to be for a short term,(1 month) and return 8%. I had read many of John’s publications and met him and we had mutual friends that had known him for years. Soon, 3 months had gone by with frequent contact from John explaining the delays. I even called him explaining that I needed at least $3,000.00 for something or other and he sent the 3K to me from his personal checking account. I considered and consider him an honorable and honest man. Soon, John was being investigated and I was sent on an all expense paid trip to Hawaii,(John’s home state). I told the Investigator/Prosecutor’s that I was responsible for my decision and believed that John was doing his best to pay us our principle. (We found out later that someone he had been working with had taken all the money and skipped the country). John was the only one left to take the blame – and he did. I told the Prosecution to punish him by letting him do his job so he could pay all the loans back. Of course they didn’t really care what I thought and John went to prison for 5 years. With the exception of the 3K he paid me we have recovered an additional $464.00 of the $44,000 the government decided he owes me now. Of course, if I were John, I would feel that 5 years of my life was sufficient to repay my debt. Justice has been done. Society has been repaid and the Government Attorneys have done their job. Another horrible Villian has been put in his place so he can’t hurt any more innocent greedy people. Only thing is — My $76,536 is still gone and my friendship with a good man, John VanHove is over. While it has been a painfully expensive lesson, it is one that I needed. Relationships are what has true value. Rick, I miss chatting in your cubicle at Franklin Covey. Thanks for the journey.

By: Ken James

Ken James — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:30:49 +0000

Rick, I support you 100%! On a personally level, I know how people will not be accountable for their actions, and yet want to pour the blame on someone else. I know how a businessman can be honest in his dealings, and show people how to make money with a CLEAR up front understanding of the RISK and the REWARDS, and when their are profits being handled out, the world is a great place, the sun shines bright, but when their is a loss, it is everyone else fault.

Their is always jealousy and envy from people; and those same people have the opportunity to make their own life better without holding a honest businessman in contempt. I joined the FreeCapitalist Project because of your teaching and even more so, because of what you have gone through.

I salute you for facing evil, unjust, hypocrites, who are only out to mooch and loot!

By: kev

kev — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:52:40 +0000

Thanks for the article.

You know, the Leninists did the same thing. They pillaged and killed any producers they could find and called it eliminating the upper class, but they went so much further, until almost no business people were left.

Then, they did it again when the common people assigned top run farms couldn’t produce – they killed them, too, who were trying to become new producers in their communist system.

I consider my self a producer, and though I don’t have your experience and exposure, plan to stay the course.

Thanks again.